Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) | From | Linus Torvalds <> | Subject | Re: The GGI and EvStack debate -- Linus and such persons please reard. |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Ok, I'll try to enlighten you.
No, I'll enlighten you.
> > The thing we already had and that everybody is already using is called a > > "tty". > > There's problem with tty. Big problem: Raw keyboard does not suit well > there. To exploit: Run X on tty9. (X use raw keyboard). Now switch to > tty1. Hold down Alt, press F9. Leave alt pressed, type ABC. Will X see > ABC or Alt-A Alt-B Alt-C? They will see the first one. BUG BUG BUG.
"Ooh, mommy, mommy, what I have now doesn't work in this extremely unlikely circumstance, so I'll just throw it away and write something completely new".
The above has been one of the major problems with GGI from the very beginning. Instead of taking something that WORKS (like X11) and fixing a few small nagging problems, you now try to advocate a completely new subsystem.
That is just STUPID. Let us review history a bit, and think about the saying "If I have seen further, it has been by standing on the shoulders of giants".
Think about it for a few minutes. Really.
THINK, DAMMIT! What the hell is the point of throwing away something that works 99.9% of the time for the extremely lame excuse that it fails 0.1% of the time? Instead, the GGI debate has always been how everything must be rewritten to use new and completely untested interfaces that currently work 0% of the time, as it if is easier to fix that..
Yes, I'm frustrated about the whole discussion, because EVERY SINGLE TECHNICAL ARGUMENT that I've ever heard for GGI has been so fundamentally broken. GGI is throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and never even noticing.
Linus
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