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    SubjectRe: [patch 2.1.97] more capabilities support
    In article <>,
    Andrej Presern <> wrote:
    >It is intresting what you say here. I have tried to explain a concept
    >much securer than what is being presented here to some people, but have
    >failed in doing so because of being unable to provide the complete
    >implementation details due to my lack of Linux internals knowledge.
    >If you are interested, I would very much like to explain it again to

    This concept was using segments to give very low-level access rights on
    a per-object basis?

    I think I saw it, and never looked closer for a few reasons:
    - segments do not exist on anything but a i386+ (even i286- "segments"
    are just abominations, and have nothing to do with real segments) in
    any popular hardware.
    - even where they exist, they are slow.
    - protection that finegrained is theoretically nice, but a maintenance
    nightmare. In theory it is the best kind of protection, in practice
    you won't find anybody who will program a non-trivial program using
    them correctly and securely (I claim that even ACL's have this
    problem, and ACL's are much simpler)

    I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
    (nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
    convince me.

    [ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]


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