Messages in this thread | | | From | "Khimenko Victor" <> | Date | Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:13:20 +0400 (MSD) | Subject | Re: unicode (char as abstract data type) |
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18-Apr-98 00:05 you wrote: > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > > > To convert what? We have multiple encodings because we have multiple > > > languages, and conversion through Unicode is useful only within the > > > language because otherwise there will be nothing to map into. koi8-r and > > > iso8859-1 charsets have no common characters except the 7-bit ASCII range. > > > > You have multiple Russian encodings. > > I certainly don't. If anything for any reason can arrive at my host in > Russian, in encoding other than koi-8, it gets converted once (and yes, > UTF-8 is used as intermediate format). The same happens with all properly > installed Unix boxes with cyrillic support. > > > There are multiple Czech encodings. > > I'm fairly sure most European languages have at least two encodings, > > thanks to Bill Gates and the ISO. > > iso8859-5 is something that exists only in someone's sick mind, however > DOS and Windows encodings are alive, and people already configured their > software to convert them when it's necessary. And we/they certainly don't > need yet another one. > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE explain how I am could tune my VLM.EXE OR NET.EXE to handle koi8-r in filenames! And the same about Mac AppleTalk client...
> > >> Think of a machine with several users and several filesystems. > > >> Maybe they are all Czech, which Martin Mares reports as having > > >> more than 5 character encodings. Each user wants to see the system > > >> in their preferred encoding. Solution: the kernel reads filenames > > >> from disk in whatever format is there, then converts to UCS2. > > >> The library converts UCS2 into the format which each user wants. > > > > > > I have never seen users voluntairily using different encodings of the > > > same language on the same OS -- originally multiple encodings for the same > > > languages were created because of incompatible operating systems and > > > hardware. > > > > People share both disk and network filesystems with other OSs. > > ...and in that case they have to keep the same charset on all systems > that are supposed to read files -- for simple reason of being capable of > understanding the data in their files. > You are completely wrong. Our web (and not only our!) server has (on server side) files in both windows-1251 and koi8-r encoding. And in near future there will be Mac encoding (Mac users are just connected and there is still no content from them on web :-)
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