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SubjectRe: NTP dumps Linux, film at 11. [Fwd/FYI]
In article <3662BCB4.F980EC8F@ktk.bidmc.harvard.edu> you wrote:
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: Dear Linus,

: I thought I would forward a piece of mail to you from one of the NTP
: developers. Linux has fallen from grace in their eyes (which you
: perhaps already know). They are actively suggesting that people who
: need to use time synchronization (NTP) switch to using freebsd.

: The cited problems with Linux are that the published interfaces to the
: kernel (adjtimex and friends) change too frequently to be supportable.
: (The recent /proc/pci discussion is tangential but worth noting.) The
: slews of bug reports received by them are almost invariably about the
: Linux platform; other platforms do not seem to suffer. I've been
: actively testing the recent NTP implementations (ntp 4.0 series), trying
: to report bugs as seen under Linux 2.0, but enthusiasm for fixing the
: bugs on their end is all but nil.

: Kris

: --
: Kristofer Karas * kXtXk@bigfoot.com (delete X's)
: AMA/CCS DoD RF900RR HawkGT !car * Senior systems engineer/SysAdmin
: "Build a system that even a fool can use, * BI Deaconess Medical Center, Boston
: and only a fool will want to use it." * Will design LISP machines for food

Since I use NTP on my machines, I will do whatever I can to make sure
it works properly on Linux. We have ways to deal with adjtimex in
glibc 2. But I don't think it will work for libc 5. Please make
sure you are running a glibc 2 based system. If you still have
problems, please send me a note at hjl@lucon.org. BTW, where can I
find ntp 4.0?

Thanks.

H.J.
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: Subject: Re: Testing fails - 4.0.90 [ntp-4.0.90b is available for testing]
: In-Reply-To: Kris Karas's (ktk@ktk.bidmc.harvard.edu) message
: dated Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:20:55. <365C66A7.46B952ED@ktk.bidmc.harvard.edu>
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: From: Harlan Stenn <Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com>

: Kris,

: Dave would know better which tools are useful for debugging.

: One problem we've had is that the Linux kernel/syscall folks have a habit of
: changing things in the published (kernel) algorithms and code, and then
: wonder why things don't work...

: It's more than neither Dave nor I have any Linux boxes - we've both looked
: at them and have decided to not run them anymore.

: H

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: To: ktk@ktk.bidmc.harvard.edu (Kris Karas)
: Subject: Re: Testing fails - 4.0.90 [ntp-4.0.90b is available for testing]
: References: <o41zmwhi8s.fsf@whimsy.udel.edu> <73bm1e$2t1$1@news.mch.sbs.de> <b177ce$73a2.274@mail.five-ten-sg.com> <o4pvaerrgj.fsf_-_@whimsy.udel.edu> <73cqsu$vio$1@mufasa.harvard.edu>
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: What's your drift value?

: Have you considered converting to FreeBSD?

: H

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