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SubjectRe: CONFIG_RANDOM (compromise?)
   Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 12:00:27 +0200
From: Harald Anlauf <>

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Actually, yes it was....

If somebody (else) runs a process constantly sucking numbers from
/dev/random on an (maybe your) essentially "idle" machine, i.e. with
little activity on keyboard, disk, network, etc., can you still
guarantee that _you_ still get sufficiently good random numbers from
/dev/random, to prevent any attacks, even if this "somebody else"
communicates these numbers to an assumed attacker? (Do not assume that
you can use e.g. the Pentium time stamp register).

If you have a "bad guy" running on your machine, they can constantly
suck numbers from /dev/random. This will cause a "denial of service
attack", since /dev/random will only issue random numbers if sufficient
entropy is available to generate them.

So an application which uses /dev/random can block; if the application
does not want to block, it can open /dev/random in non-blocking mode
(usually recommended). However, this does not answer the question of
what to do when /dev/random has been exhausted. The right course of
action is probably to give the user a warning message and exit.

While this may not sounds entirely satisfactory, consider what else an
attacker to could if they have access to your machine. (a) they could
try breaking in as root, (b) they could do resource starvation by
running a program which does:

while (1) {
cp = malloc(1 megabyte);

(c) they could break in using some neglected hole in (pick your choice
of) sendmail, /proc, NIS, NFS, etc., etc., etc.

In the long run, a system which is doing fair-resource allocation to
prevent one user from grabbing all availble CPU, virtual memory, and
other resources will also have to treat /dev/random as a valuable
resource whose use must be controlled to prevent one user from grabbing
all available entropy. However, this sort of resource control is hard
to do right; especially if you want an efficient system! Given that we
don't even handle memory exhaustion terribly efficiently at the moment,
random number exhaustion is a similar (unsolved) problem in Linux.

When we solve the general resource allocation problem, it should not be
terribly difficult to extend it to solve the /dev/random allocation
problem. Why hasn't it been addressed in Linux so far? I suspect
because there aren't that many Linux systems doing serious time-sharing
systems. We have machines which are network services, and single-user
desktop machines, but for those machines things like quotas and resource
allocation aren't as important. While there are some time-sharing
machiens using Linux, they tend to be in the minority.

- Ted

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